of of of soy daniel jadu. daniel jodwey, a citizen of

chile, originally from palestine, born like so many other palestinians around the world and the diaspora. chile has one of the largest communities outside the arab world. it is said that we are close to 300 thousand, but we are millions spread across the face of the earth, far from our homeland, but committed to the identity, history and struggle of our people, of our land, which is and will forever be palestine. hello everyone, welcome once again in recent days we have seen how the ongoing genocide in palestine has continued with the full support and complicity of what is called the west, but what has attracted the most attention is the selective and surgical murder of journalists, writers, artisans, artists and all those who in one way or another represent the transmission generation. after generation

of culture and memory of the palestinian people, we seem to be facing a blatant attempt to erase from the map the entire palestinian presence that has thousands of thousands of years of history. let's watch the following video so we can delf deeper into this matter. veamos el siguiente video para que podamos profundizar en esta materia.

of of يفطر القلب الما على هذه المشكله. of en las últimas semanas in recent weeks more than 100 journalists have seen their lives end in the midst of this. genocide, they have

accompanied hundreds of academics, teachers of and writers, and this adds to a persecution throughout the world and is a sign of solidarity by those who put themselves in the place of the palestinian people. let's watch a video by huda hijazi again to dig deeper into this topic. on october 7th, the israeli regime began a brutal attack on the gaza strip, which resulted in the murder of... thousands of innocent civilians. media workers have not been an exception. the israeli regime killed more than 100 palestinian journalists as well as dozens of their families. according to reports issued by the organization, reporters without borders, palestinian journalists or targets in of israeli bombings while carrying out their work. this happens despite the fact that they always wear press vests that indicate who they are, and there is an international.

humanitarian law for the protection of journalists and press workers, since the beginning of operation, israel has tried to of blind the eye of the truth and kill those people who spread the truth in the world, israel does not want the world to know about the crimes it is carrying out, and it knows perfectly well the danger that these journalists can cause for the image of the israel regime. along with the resistance, journalists represent a weapon against the israeli regime. journalists and intellectuals play a very important role in everything. israel has not only focused on murdering journalists, but also any prominent person from the gaza strip who raises their voice to inform the world about the crimes committed by this regime. some of the most important losses for the gaza society were the murder the writer hebbe abu neda, who was also a

poet, and of course rafat alir, professor and founder of the organization, we are not numbers, which denounces the crimes and murders that the israeli regime commits against the palestinians. this way israel's goal is to silence all the people who try to show the truth to the world. so far we've seen patterns of systematic attacks not only on journalists, but also on an educated elite group of doctors, teachers and engineers who have influence and talent, people who have the potential to lead society in the future. the purpose of israel is to try to paralyze society in the years to come and make the people. people who find themselves in this place feel that it is inevitable and eventually they will have to be forced into expulsion. in the same way, the occupying regime also murdered the families of several journalists with the purpose of causing them greater damage with the loss of their loved

ones to try to prevent them from continuing with their journalistic work. however, despite all the pain and mental and physical exhaustion, they have decided to continue with their work and their duty to transmit the truth in the palestinian territory itself. this population is known as the heroes of the truth. i feel that it is very important for us that our voice reaches and is heard by the world, but this is very difficult when you have a military group that attacks journalists and other prominent people. i hope that our voice is heard, the voice of those who live here under siege and under attacks. we have message that must be transmitted. people from abroad. can put pressure on countries to stop these crimes? it is estimated that there are more than a thousand local palestinian journalistic reporters facing the same daily hardships as any other civilian in gaza. they are having difficulty accessing food and drink to cover their needs, despite the fact that they would

simply be journalists without risking their lives in the exercise of their profession. the objective of the israeli regime is murdering prominent figures of palestinian society such as intellectuals, artists and journalists. this is attempt to hide the crimes it carries out against the palestinians in addition to hiding the truth the palestinian cause, which is why the gazans assure that despite the obstacles of the occupation regime, your duty is to continue with the path of these defenders of the homeland freedom. huda hijazi, hispan tv, palestine. we thank huda hijazi once again for this interesting report and we cannot move forward without specifying that the most serious thing about what we have just seen is the complicity and media and journalistic corruption that is rampant in the west and have become accomplices of this reality through their silence in our country. not even the college of journalists has been able

to raise the voice of the people who are in the presidency and to of the guts to defend their colleagues who continue to be murdered day after day as part of his policy of phys. today we are going to talk again with a person who was already on this program, she is a writer and she's a professor of palestinian literature in the diaspora, we welcome lena is with us again. what does palestine lose in addition to the

countless lives every time israel attacks and murders an artist, a writer, a journalist, a palestinian professional or a palestinian artisan, and in this massacre that goes for... we think about lives, sometimes we think or reduce lives to numbers, but lives are not just numbers of bodies or numbers of corpses on the rubble, but they're also a whole cultural production. for example, when i think of the dead children, these children are also recipients of memory, continuators of a culture. every time a child is murdered, what is murdered is not only all their affection, but also all of the potential and memory a nation has. that is very, very... very important question, because that is precisely the objective or one of the objectives of the designist

attacks on gaza. let's say the lack of care for the palestinian citizens, for the palestinian nation has to do with the erasery of nation. this memory is erased not only with the displacement of palestinians towards the diaspora, but above all with the elimination of those people who carry the memory, the cultural production, the language, the palestinian traditions. music, the food, and all the history of the past, being able to bear witness to what has happened in a place is, let's say very important, so it seems to me that there is also an element that goes beyond the pure idea of body and has to do with cultural production, with memory, with language, with food, with traditions, it's very important to understand that these are parts of what is being destroyed, to

found a colonial state, you must effectively erase everything that was there in advance. let's move to two questions from the audience, who wants to consult? diego flores, hello, i'm diego flores, a pleasure to great you. i would like to ask you how you have received the support and cease fire requests from intellectual writers of the great european powers. good morning, my name is sylvia. thanks for the invitation. i wanted to check the following: in europe, several countries have banned and repressed demonstrations in support of the palestinian people. the use of the cafia is even prohibited because it is considered incitement to hatred. and i wanted to know if this is also related to the influence of.

wanted to support or are supporting the cultural manifestations, those who are demanding sease fire, who want to put an end to this policy of removing the palestinian population from gaza, which is one of the ideas that is currently on the way, as the only solution to the problem. as a result, what concerns us the most is how israel seeks the long policy of annihilating the cultural manifestations of palestine and the vindication of its own nation. let's think about this old and very frequently used phrase by ben guurion who said, "the old will

die, and the young will forget. of course, the old will die, and it happens everyone, but there is also a politics behind this oblivion of the youth. for example, the deletion of the word palestinian, which is prohibited, right? today they prefer to use the word judea and samaria. this name is much more favored in. in order to connect the name the land with the jewish community, on the other hand, the impossibility or the prohibition of the use of the palestinian flag, which in fact is much more present today in chile in the palestinian stadium than in israel itself and the occupied territories, and of course there is serious ban on the use of the cafeer in demonstrations. now all of this has to do with symbols that remind us that palestine still exists. that remind us of palestinian leaders like yasa arafat, and that is why the

use of the cafea is being banned in places like germany, even in the united states. the use of the cafeer is called incitement to hatred, but in reality, to what extent could a symbol that reminds us of palestine be incitement to hatred. those of course are manipulations of what national symbols mean, and of course manipulations of what it means to say wearing that scarf as a way of... "i am palestinian too. let us remember that this idea of "i am also a berliner" was established by president kennedy in the years the cold war in berlin. to show support for the germans, to the same extent, the has been a demonstration of support for the palestinian community, that is why it's being banned, and of course this is prohibited, this policy is instigated, is supported and demanded by the regime of israel, the previous question had to do with the support the world's intellectuals for the palestinian

cause. i want to remind you that many female authors especially have been punished for their... report of the palestinian cause, camilla shamsi, who is neither a pakistani nor british author, was stripped of the neli sax award, subsequently the european theater award was stripped from the greatest british playwrite named carol churchill, and more recently author adania shibly of palestinian origin, had a prize defert, and similarly author, a russian jewish philosopher named masha, had a prized the fird and downgraded. orgessen who was also punished for just comparing the situation in gaza to the warso ghetto. these are always the silence and suffocate voices raised for palestine. they want to intimidate people from the palestinian culture, philosophy and arts so that they remain silent at this moment.

successes in the last seven decades is that despite everything that israel does, despite all the war crimes, despite all the ethnic cleansing that they have carried out during these seven decades, the palestinian nation has managed to rise and convince the world that they are the victims and not the perpetrators, we're going to take a break and we'll be back soon. "we are now back to continue learning more about the palestinian community in chile, about this palestinianness of the diaspora and today we're going to talk with esperanza marsuka. let's watch the following video to know more about her. esperanza did not forget the students who marched demanding the freedom of

palestine, nor the attack of the soldiers of the king of jordan against those unarmed people. she was seven years old and..." she never forgot the paint faces of mothers and fathers passing by with the body of their children at hand, bearing them in a traumatic parade. picture that repeats itself today, but this time because of other invaders. espranza was born in bethlehem. she arrived in chile in 1956 with her parents, her grandmother and her brothers. she has returned to palestine three times bringing little pieces of her homeland. her house is full of objects that remind her of her childhood, traditional images, delicate crafts, culture that will be eraised along with the hands that produce them. if designist's advance is not stopped in 2019 she published his novel de key a fiction based on her childhood memories and extensive historical research that allows us to understand the struggles of the palestinian people from the 1930s to the mid-1960s when the zin advance intensified destroying houses streets and orchards leaving the protagonists of her book insbronza herself with only a handful of memories and no homeland patria

esperanza very welcome and thank you thank you very much for accepting this invitation, i want to start by asking you the same thing i ask everyone when they are here, when and under what circumstances do you and your family arrive in our country? we arrived in chile in 1956 at the beginning of 1956 in march with my father, my mother, my grandmother and my brothers, well basically the reason for coming to chile was the instability there. in bethlehem and at that part there was the area of palestine that was not occupied in 1948, it was under jordanian rule and they kept that part and then well i believe that the palestinians have always fought for their independence because they did not want anyone either jew nor jordanian nor anyone, so well i believe that the palestinians have always fought for their independence. i was super young, i was seven

years old, and you saw on the streets and the demonstrations of students, young children in the center of the... explonade of bethlehem demonstrating, and then you see how the jordanian soldiers from the roofs shot at them. as i mentioned, this is what has always caught my attention, ruthless killings, and then you saw the parade of mothers of families taking their children to be buried a row one after another. i think that that is something that impacts you for life, very terrible. for because my grandfather traveled to chile in the early 1900s, he was here in 1920, he was in honduras and mexico, so my father spoke spanish, and they came back later when

he was teenager, so he was kind of familiar with america. after arrival, what was the relationship that the family continue to have with palestine, beyond relatives with whom there were clearly a permanent connection.

you mentioned that you have returned to palestine on several occasions, on one of your trips, you surely visited the territories of 1948, what is known as uh israel by some, and in that land you have been able to make contact with the palestinians of 1948. what is the feeling that you have today, how do you feel in quotes in this uh limbo between being israeli citizens, but let's see, i think the trip i took, which i actually took with my husband,

i needed, i really needed to see the palestinians who are stuck there inside israel, and i arrived with tremendous anguish as i got to know the people, people were relaxing, i was in haifa and jafa and nazareth, which in reality nazareth is palestine, the majority of palestinians, and i remember that i arrived asking about the hotel we had reserved and young man greeted me, he was around 30 to 40 years old, i asked him about the hotel and told him i'm from chile, but he immediately came out to say that we are not palestinians, unless we say firmly that we are palestinian, he told me this, say that you are palestinian, and then we repeat this together, do you feel the fervor of it and the identity it has? despite being 70 years old, maybe in h when you enter a place saying that you want to get to know the neighborhoods because their neighborhoods, they the... astinans live in neighborhoods, they take you to their home, they invite you to what they have, they take you around. if you go to a restaurant and you know there, you remember people, and it is the joy of feeling that you're seeing them.

in a restaurant, they were carrying plates and i felt this is from us. what do i know? i mean, you really feel everything belongs to you. in fact, i left with the feeling that the palestinians who are living inside the area that is israel today are much more palestinian than the rest of palestine. i mean, i know i felt so... there is a strong feeling, mean it is a combination of sadness and joy. it was an experience, i believe, one the most important, and today how do you see, how does the palestinian community, the palestinian diaspora see what is happening today in palestine? it makes you speakless. you'll say it is terrible, what is happening is terrible, deep down, what we do is at least i talk on the phone, especially with people, i already have friends to have family there and they are actually terrified because

they can't go out, because deep down i have no relationship with the people of gaza, but do have a relationship with and people don't leave, that is tremendously important, corruption a global level have wanted to turn this into a war between israel and gaza, however in the west bank, more than 500 people have died in the last week, there were more than 500 imprisoned without prior trials and without any reason, as if they were preparing, in quotes the exchange of prisoners with new prisoners who have no reason to be there, huge number of young people have been taken prisoners, how do they describe the situation there for you, their situation? is somewhat very similar to the communities that are in honduras as well, which are perhaps one could say the first two countries that have the largest christian communities. what is the situation like

today, according to? que ellos relatan hoy día allá eh bueno que es es dramática porque la gente it's dramatic because people avoid going to the streets and in other words they can't go to work because basically if you go out and are found suspicious they will imprison you immediately they don't have money because they can't go to work suppose for christmas mean all the supermarkets are full of toys, chocolates and things, however they don't have money to buy, he can't go out, he can't work, well this is in the cities. but in the surrounding areas in hebron for example there is the whole issue of settlers and in fact this is not safe i don't know because they are criminals have been hired. i don't know if they are of the jewish religion or not, but they are like, i think they are a selection of criminals to attack people in small towns, mistreat them, burn their houses, break their cars, and deep down they're forcing people to leave because this is basically the big plan. of course, the idea of it is to keep gaza without palestinians and also the west bank without

palestine. it is a plan and the people, well we are seeing, they are resisting in gaza, so the situation is dramatic in palestine too. well, there are a lot of people who have been imprisoned, and the idea was basically to exchange former captives, especially children. there are thousands of children who are basically imprisoned without trial, those administrative detentions, and the idea of hamas was basically to exchange captives with them, but there are more and more captives, so the situation has become super super dramatic. was born and weeks ago all over the world new liturgy was celebrated. what is it like among the palestinians when the entire world is immersed in this world wind of buying gifts and partying. meanwhile in the land where christ was born there is genocide and a process of ethnic cleansing and the

world pretends not to know about it. it caught my attention, i asked lot, no prayer is being said in christian churches at christmas time in the city of bethlehem. i mean, really, well, if at christmas you went to the malls, to the streets, as if you were basically indifferent to what is happening, i believe that the only ones, those closest. easter tree, buys gifts, eats deliciously, and it is a world apart, indifferent, that's one thing that draws attention es es un mundo aparte indiferente, eso es una cosa que que que llama atención, it draws deep attention,

christ is being crucified again every day in incredible numbers and in a genocidal policy, the christian world with the soul exception the pope who has called to stop this genocide, but very pleasant, very pleasantly, yeah, the entire christian world and all western values seem to be dying out along with the faith. esperanza, i thank you very much for having accepted this invitation and for sharing withus. el pueblo palestino es una invención del siglo pasado, no existe tal cosa como una nación palestina, porque el pueblo palestino no existe.

يا زريف الطول يا صمود الاسير يا صقر السماعه contradiction and confrontation between two stories that are disputed today, truthfulness in the construction of universal history, the first, a typical story of any colonial state that seeks to construct a usable past to found new identity, as stated by hilomas.